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		<title>Comment on The Idea Of It All by Bennie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok i am fucking gay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok i am fucking gay!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cinema Gay by Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alberto, thanks for the comment. I agree with you that the definitions that might exist out there on &#039;gay cinema&#039; etc are quite limiting, and I liked the way you opened the possibilities to other definitions, or ideas on what constitutes a &#039;gay film&#039;. 

Thanks for leaving a comment, and joining in our discussion! 

Regards,

Adrian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alberto, thanks for the comment. I agree with you that the definitions that might exist out there on &#8216;gay cinema&#8217; etc are quite limiting, and I liked the way you opened the possibilities to other definitions, or ideas on what constitutes a &#8216;gay film&#8217;. </p>
<p>Thanks for leaving a comment, and joining in our discussion! </p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Adrian</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cinema Gay by Alberto Mira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alberto Mira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, just saw your comments about my book.

What I was trying was to move away from a very restrictive version of what &quot;gay cinema&quot; is, even in the minds of gay audiences. For the book I interviewed lots of people about what they understood gay cinema was, and most respondents had very clear ideas and lists of &quot;do&quot; and &quot;don´t&quot;. When I gave them examples of films which other people considered &quot;gay cinema&quot; (i.e., Mary Poppins, Picnic, Splendour in the Grass, The Sound of Music or even Can´t Stop the Music) they were almost upset as if I was making connections up. One of my concerns was to see if those films had any potentialities in common. I think I sketched some of those in the book, but what is important to me is to introduce the idea of experience in gay spectatorship. Experience, in the way discussed in the book is BOTH personal (i.e., &quot;things that happen to you&quot;), and shared (what those things may mean symbolically in our society). In other words I understand that for many people there is nothing gay in those films, they would not be caught dead in a ROcky Horror Picture Show screening, and that it is wrong to mix things. 

But still, one thing we cannot escape is those films really mean a lot to some people because they go deeply into basic structures we associate with being gay. For me that happened a lot with Disney films. Some people grow out of Disney, I feel I was able to enjoy them as a child and then allowed them to say something about growing up different (as in Dumbo). 

Films can be toolkits, places from where we can borrow ideas, reconstruct our senses of ourselves...

Best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, just saw your comments about my book.</p>
<p>What I was trying was to move away from a very restrictive version of what &#8220;gay cinema&#8221; is, even in the minds of gay audiences. For the book I interviewed lots of people about what they understood gay cinema was, and most respondents had very clear ideas and lists of &#8220;do&#8221; and &#8220;don´t&#8221;. When I gave them examples of films which other people considered &#8220;gay cinema&#8221; (i.e., Mary Poppins, Picnic, Splendour in the Grass, The Sound of Music or even Can´t Stop the Music) they were almost upset as if I was making connections up. One of my concerns was to see if those films had any potentialities in common. I think I sketched some of those in the book, but what is important to me is to introduce the idea of experience in gay spectatorship. Experience, in the way discussed in the book is BOTH personal (i.e., &#8220;things that happen to you&#8221;), and shared (what those things may mean symbolically in our society). In other words I understand that for many people there is nothing gay in those films, they would not be caught dead in a ROcky Horror Picture Show screening, and that it is wrong to mix things. </p>
<p>But still, one thing we cannot escape is those films really mean a lot to some people because they go deeply into basic structures we associate with being gay. For me that happened a lot with Disney films. Some people grow out of Disney, I feel I was able to enjoy them as a child and then allowed them to say something about growing up different (as in Dumbo). </p>
<p>Films can be toolkits, places from where we can borrow ideas, reconstruct our senses of ourselves&#8230;</p>
<p>Best</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cinema Gay by Inmaculada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inmaculada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found it in the library, of course!. To buy it it&#039;s very expensive for me :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found it in the library, of course!. To buy it it&#8217;s very expensive for me <img src='http://thedaytheearthstoodgay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Cinema Gay by Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Inmaculada, thanks for your kind words. How are you finding the book? I&#039;m almost half way through it now, and though dense, it does seem quite easy to read, the style is quite approachable, and it has some fantastic ideas in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Inmaculada, thanks for your kind words. How are you finding the book? I&#8217;m almost half way through it now, and though dense, it does seem quite easy to read, the style is quite approachable, and it has some fantastic ideas in it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cinema Gay by Inmaculada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inmaculada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your blog. I&#039;m reading now &quot;Miradas insumisas&quot; :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your blog. I&#8217;m reading now &#8220;Miradas insumisas&#8221; <img src='http://thedaytheearthstoodgay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Mr. &amp; Mrs. Gay by Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that, though gay men might see ICT as a straight world (of sorts), there is a fundamental different about the idea of girls being persuaded not to go to ICT because of sexism, and that of gay men. The different is that while gender is obvious, sexuality isn&#039;t and therefore teachers and parents might not be able to &#039;dissuade&#039; in case of sounding homophobic? Not that dissuading women is not sexist and just re-establishing the patriarchal society we seem to still (sic) be living in... How do you dissuade or persuade someone if what they are, one of their characteristic is not easy to identify?

It&#039;s an interesting point you raise, Agueda, and one that we should look into in future for sure, since all this is very much related to what feminists (in your case) and queer theorists like to discuss on a daily basis!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that, though gay men might see ICT as a straight world (of sorts), there is a fundamental different about the idea of girls being persuaded not to go to ICT because of sexism, and that of gay men. The different is that while gender is obvious, sexuality isn&#8217;t and therefore teachers and parents might not be able to &#8216;dissuade&#8217; in case of sounding homophobic? Not that dissuading women is not sexist and just re-establishing the patriarchal society we seem to still (sic) be living in&#8230; How do you dissuade or persuade someone if what they are, one of their characteristic is not easy to identify?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an interesting point you raise, Agueda, and one that we should look into in future for sure, since all this is very much related to what feminists (in your case) and queer theorists like to discuss on a daily basis!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mr. &amp; Mrs. Gay by Agueda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agueda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian, I found interesting what you said about &quot;We [gay men] use our imagination as part of our jobs, and there is a bigger number (though I haven’t done a census, so I’m not sure how accurate this is) of gay men who end up working in the art industry, than those that end up in the sciences world&quot;. 

I recently co-authored a paper on Women and ICT (which you can find &lt;a href=&quot;http://eun.org/whitepaper&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) where we discussed reasons why women did not go into ICT careers. We found (and there is more literature on the subject) that role models and stereotypes were still a strong influence on women&#039;s decisions against ICT careers. As my colleague Alexa Joyce writes: &lt;i&gt;although many girls are interested and competent in ICT, they are often wrongly dissuaded by teachers or parents who see ICT as a &quot;man&#039;s world&quot;&lt;/i&gt;. 

Reading your article, I was wondering if the same could be applied to gay men and not only are gay men steering more towards art careers because they are looking to be more &quot;creative&quot;, but because &lt;i&gt;they are often wrongly dissuaded by teachers or parents who see ICT as a &quot;&lt;/i&gt;straight&lt;i&gt; man&#039;s world&quot;&lt;/i&gt;.

Oh, and note aside, I think creativity is something also very much present in sciences, contrary to the general belief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian, I found interesting what you said about &#8220;We [gay men] use our imagination as part of our jobs, and there is a bigger number (though I haven’t done a census, so I’m not sure how accurate this is) of gay men who end up working in the art industry, than those that end up in the sciences world&#8221;. </p>
<p>I recently co-authored a paper on Women and ICT (which you can find <a href="http://eun.org/whitepaper" rel="nofollow">here</a>) where we discussed reasons why women did not go into ICT careers. We found (and there is more literature on the subject) that role models and stereotypes were still a strong influence on women&#8217;s decisions against ICT careers. As my colleague Alexa Joyce writes: <i>although many girls are interested and competent in ICT, they are often wrongly dissuaded by teachers or parents who see ICT as a &#8220;man&#8217;s world&#8221;</i>. </p>
<p>Reading your article, I was wondering if the same could be applied to gay men and not only are gay men steering more towards art careers because they are looking to be more &#8220;creative&#8221;, but because <i>they are often wrongly dissuaded by teachers or parents who see ICT as a &#8220;</i>straight<i> man&#8217;s world&#8221;</i>.</p>
<p>Oh, and note aside, I think creativity is something also very much present in sciences, contrary to the general belief.</p>
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